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Old Jul 31, 2006, 09:37 AM // 09:37   #21
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WoW is great when you start to play it. I think I was more impressed with WoW compared to guild wars for sure. I always started off as a night elf, and let me tell you, the music and imagination of that place is incredible... which sets up a lot of disappointment later because many of the boards are crap (like the barren orange places, where there is a lot of). That's not to say all the places suck. There is a lush world there to explore, and you won't get sick of it for a really long time. I would say as far as graphics go, WoW is superior.

But WoW has many, many inconviences that will make your head snap. And at some point, you'll explode and not want to play anymore, no matter how much you have invested in the game.

1) It takes a lot of work to get a mount. Lots of instance dungeons to get items, then you have auction and repeat for a very long time to get the gold to buy a mount. And once you get it, you can't help but feel disappointed since it's really not that much faster than your running speed. It only makes dodging fights easier... since without a mount, you basically HAVE to fight most of the time.

2) Battles with low-level enemies will annoy you. Escaping from battles is rather clumbsy for many characters. Sometimes once your aggro'd into a battle, you just know you're going to die and there's nothing you can do about it.

3) The difference between your character and equivalent level monster is rather small. You basically can only go head to head with 1 foe with most classes, maybe 2 max. The only exceptions are classes like the shaman, which can solo 2-3 at the same time (when I played anyway) almost right from the beginning of the game. It's actually unfair.

4) Long-distance travel stinks. You may spend 5 or 10 minutes just getting from one place to the next, even using the griphons. It is purely focused at wasting the player's time. Why not just transport you there via portals? Why use a bird and actually physically move you across all the maps and load all the characters and graphics for?

5) Non-instanced worlds can become a problem when questing. Trying to kill 15 creatures of a rare type or trying to collect 15 pelts of something when 20 people are competing for them is really stupid. Doing it in a party takes forever. Also people doing quests that take time to reset will annoy you to no end. You may even have to kill a creature 5 times to get it to drop once, so expect killing hundreds of creatures of the same type to get 15 pelts. It's dumb and boring.

6) Getting drops in a group always caused me a lot of frustration since morons would roll on items that they couldn't use nor trade but you really needed it. In WoW, if multiple people in the same group want an item, they have to roll for it. You can let the leader deside, but most groups don't run that way, and many times you can't even trust the leader.

7) Grinding is basically necessary. It's still faster to grind than to do the quests, even if it is boring.

8) They still have you doing those kill X creature quests at high levels. Couldn't they come up with something more interesting? The quests in WoW will become dreadfully borring.

9) Dying at later regions in the game will annoy you. The common answer is, "Just don't die" - but when you do, the ressurection points are in such far corners on the map... and the maps become so huge... that it might take you several minutes to get back to your corpse. And when you die again after a 4 minute walk... you have to take another 4 minute walk. This only amplify's being in a party full of people that can't play the game. It's not so bad early in the game, but it gets so much worse later on.

I think guild wars might have this problem too, since I'm so new to the game... but this is my experience with WoW.

10) Losing XP in WoW can reset hours of play. Yes, you don't have to use the spirit healer. But guess what? You probably will use it when the mobs around your corpse get huge. What makes things worse, is that many times people will cause your death, or it'll just be an unfortunate run in that you had no idea it was going to come. Sure, it might be realistic, but when an idiot runs in my direction with 5 guys following him... and they decide to attack me instead... I'm not the happiest person in the world at that point. That player has just wasted a lot of my time.

11) Mining/Farming is rediculous. You will spend hours getting materials and doing run after run just to make 1 armor. The best stuff in the game is rediculously hard to make.

12) Not all classes are balanced. Some barely scrap by, and have no chance if 2 monsters attack it, while others coast through the entire game.

There are many other things I didn't like... but I haven't played the game in a very long time... and quite frankly... I'm surprised I remember that much.
I bought Wow 2 days ago and I'm starting think it was one hell of a bad decision, lolz, thanks. 60-day free card kicks a$$ though.

Anywho.

Back on-topic, the graphics of Guild wars are much, much, much better. Easily. Looks like a 4 year old with a etcher sketcher made Wow, im comparison .
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Old Jul 31, 2006, 09:38 AM // 09:38   #22
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WoW is great when you start to play it. I think I was more impressed with WoW compared to guild wars for sure. I always started off as a night elf, and let me tell you, the music and imagination of that place is incredible... which sets up a lot of disappointment later because many of the boards are crap (like the barren orange places, where there is a lot of). That's not to say all the places suck. There is a lush world there to explore, and you won't get sick of it for a really long time. I would say as far as graphics go, WoW is superior.

But WoW has many, many inconviences that will make your head snap. And at some point, you'll explode and not want to play anymore, no matter how much you have invested in the game.

1) It takes a lot of work to get a mount. Lots of instance dungeons to get items, then you have auction and repeat for a very long time to get the gold to buy a mount. And once you get it, you can't help but feel disappointed since it's really not that much faster than your running speed. It only makes dodging fights easier... since without a mount, you basically HAVE to fight most of the time.

2) Battles with low-level enemies will annoy you. Escaping from battles is rather clumbsy for many characters. Sometimes once your aggro'd into a battle, you just know you're going to die and there's nothing you can do about it.

3) The difference between your character and equivalent level monster is rather small. You basically can only go head to head with 1 foe with most classes, maybe 2 max. The only exceptions are classes like the shaman, which can solo 2-3 at the same time (when I played anyway) almost right from the beginning of the game. It's actually unfair.

4) Long-distance travel stinks. You may spend 5 or 10 minutes just getting from one place to the next, even using the griphons. It is purely focused at wasting the player's time. Why not just transport you there via portals? Why use a bird and actually physically move you across all the maps and load all the characters and graphics for?

5) Non-instanced worlds can become a problem when questing. Trying to kill 15 creatures of a rare type or trying to collect 15 pelts of something when 20 people are competing for them is really stupid. Doing it in a party takes forever. Also people doing quests that take time to reset will annoy you to no end. You may even have to kill a creature 5 times to get it to drop once, so expect killing hundreds of creatures of the same type to get 15 pelts. It's dumb and boring.

6) Getting drops in a group always caused me a lot of frustration since morons would roll on items that they couldn't use nor trade but you really needed it. In WoW, if multiple people in the same group want an item, they have to roll for it. You can let the leader deside, but most groups don't run that way, and many times you can't even trust the leader.

7) Grinding is basically necessary. It's still faster to grind than to do the quests, even if it is boring.

8) They still have you doing those kill X creature quests at high levels. Couldn't they come up with something more interesting? The quests in WoW will become dreadfully borring.

9) Dying at later regions in the game will annoy you. The common answer is, "Just don't die" - but when you do, the ressurection points are in such far corners on the map... and the maps become so huge... that it might take you several minutes to get back to your corpse. And when you die again after a 4 minute walk... you have to take another 4 minute walk. This only amplify's being in a party full of people that can't play the game. It's not so bad early in the game, but it gets so much worse later on.

I think guild wars might have this problem too, since I'm so new to the game... but this is my experience with WoW.

10) Losing XP in WoW can reset hours of play. Yes, you don't have to use the spirit healer. But guess what? You probably will use it when the mobs around your corpse get huge. What makes things worse, is that many times people will cause your death, or it'll just be an unfortunate run in that you had no idea it was going to come. Sure, it might be realistic, but when an idiot runs in my direction with 5 guys following him... and they decide to attack me instead... I'm not the happiest person in the world at that point. That player has just wasted a lot of my time.

11) Mining/Farming is rediculous. You will spend hours getting materials and doing run after run just to make 1 armor. The best stuff in the game is rediculously hard to make.

12) Not all classes are balanced. Some barely scrap by, and have no chance if 2 monsters attack it, while others coast through the entire game.

There are many other things I didn't like... but I haven't played the game in a very long time... and quite frankly... I'm surprised I remember that much.
I bought Wow 2 days ago and I'm starting think it was one hell of a bad decision, lolz, thanks. 60-day free card kicks a$$ though.

Anywho.

Back on-topic, the graphics of Guild wars are much, much, much better. Easily. Looks like a 4 year old with a etcher sketcher made Wow, in comparison .
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Old Jul 31, 2006, 08:19 PM // 20:19   #23
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If you play the game for 2 months for a good length of time, I think you'll get everything out of it anyway.
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